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, everyone. i'm larry kudlow. this is "the kudlow report." tax hikes, tax hikes, and tax hikes. one way or another, that's about all i hear on this fiscal cliff business, and you know what? what about spending cuts which is the true source of the deficit problem along with anemic economic growth. and here's one. we just got confirmation that the latest fiscal numbers from the treasury department show the federal government ran up more red ink in october than it did the year before, and guess what? spending went up double digits from the year before. what a surprise. but the white house got one thing right today. it released a study showing that a massive year-end tax hike would kill consumer spending by $200 billion, right. so let's not raise taxes. and in addition to all of this, the joint chiefs of staff is apparently drawing up plans to keep 10,000 u.s. troops in afghanistan past the 2014 deadline. this break a president obama promise, but some promises are made to be broken, and i think this is probably a good move. but first up congress back at work tonight after the holiday recess

don't if it breaks the pledge or not but i am opposed to the tax rate increase because i think it hurts the economy and i think most economists that i respect believe that but throughout my career i v gone to the floor time after time on the appropriations bills and the farm bills that have the important earmarks, the terrible and egregious subsidies which i have opposed all along and i am sure grower has been well aware of that. >>neil: he has in conversations, he has said that but what concerns him is that republicans seem to be running around with the tail between their leg after the election and acquiescing on revenues and letting the democrats stream roll them and he says they will pay in two years. do you feel threatened? >>guest: will, republicans have to be for some things and we need to be for things and for spending cuts. we need to be for entitlement reform. that has to be done if we are ever going to be serious about this debt issue, i don't think we should disrespect grover norquist any more than i believe we should disrespect the heritage foundation or any others.

a campaign to persuade voters that his plans for higher taxes on the wealthy are the right path forward. leading republicans creating consternation within their own party does they reversed themselves from taxes and seemingly the president's ideas of increases, a growing number on the right rejecting their no new taxes pledges and instead are now claiming the grover norquist is the real problem in washington d.c. fox digital politics center is here with us tonight as is the daily caller stalker carlson. egyptian leader declaring new powers for himself, claiming he won't be just another dictator. just a week ago praised by the obama administration for brokering a ceasefire in gaza, and now the white house is silent on the more -- coupe. middle east expert professor hoover institute senior fellow "wall street journal" as columnist among our guests here tonight. we begin with the president's broad based strategy to conduct our right class warfare against the republican party on the issue of taxes and the fiscal cliff. the white house today released a report from the council of economic adv

>>> tonight mutiny in the gop. republicans rethinking the no new taxes pledge. will they turn their backs on norquist to save america? tonight i'll ask him himself if he's losing the fight. willie nelson is back on the road. how many girls has he loved before? >> the reason divorces are so expensive is they're worth it. >> the hits keep on coming for willie nelson and i don't mean his songs. >> i probably did, i probably did. >> a very entertaining interview. this is piers morgan tonight. >> good evening. the big story tonight teetering on the edge of the fiscal cliff about 36 days to go until tax increases kick in. the white house and congress are playing a high stakes game of let's make a deal. president obama spoke with john boehner this weekend and expressed confidence the deal can't be reached before the deadline. that's what most americans want. in the the latest poll. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should make to each other is to avoid. >> you signed it 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. the world has changed. >> joining me now is

of supervisors file no. 121064 business and tax regulations, police codes, parking stations, revenue control equipment, licensing regulations, parking tax bonds, administrative citation process. you have a presentation by mr. greg kato, tax and treasurer's office and there kato is making the presentation at the request of supervisor campos' office. >> thank you, welcome >> thank you for your patience. >> thank you. good afternoon. the legislation before you today amends the business and tax regulations code with regard to enforcing the parking tax. our office would like to thank supervisor campos for carrying that legislation. this follows on the efforts of former supervisors mcgoldrick, dufty >> the parking tax is pretty significant tax for san francisco. it collects a little over $70 million a year in taxes. most of that is appropriated to the mta for transit programs, and so it's a very important tax. the legislation specifically amends how parking bonds are treated. parking bonds are required of operators to protect the city's interest and provide security for the taxes that the opera

't think that raising tax rates is something that's good for this economy, that will help grow jobs. and so what we have said is there are ways for the federal government to have more revenue if we grow this economy and engage in tax reforms. >> every economist i respect says if you raise tax rates at this time -- in fact the president said that a couple years ago -- that it harms the economy. we're trying to help the economy. and so unless i can be convinced that raising tax rates will be beneficial, then obviously i think there's reason and grounds for my position. >> the truth is this country does not need to go through this fiscal cliff, which is fundamentally a huge tax increase and very little spending cuts. we're favoring a huge automatic tax increase that needs to be changed. >> bottom line we can't go off the fiscal cliff. democrats have harry reid. we have mitch mcconnell. get them in the room. no one gets all they want. if reagan and o'neill could do it, obama and boehner should be able to do it. >> it's the right approach, the one most beneficial for our economy, that protects t

american who pays taxes, has a mortgage or -- has to manage their own money, and that is every american. tonight, while shopping is a big story, along with the surprising amount americans are spending the bigger story is the fact that some very tough choices are coming, and it is the folks in washington who are going to decide for everyone. we have it all covered tonight, beginning with our chief white house correspondent, chuck todd, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, leaders in wall street and washington have been warning for weeks of a possibility of an economic downturn if they don't avert what we have been calling the fiscal cliff. and yet the consumers we have been talking about are not acting very worried. trying to capitalize on the strong holiday shopping season, the president warned that the economy will spiral downward if it is not addressed. >> i think it is a reason that retailers are so concerned. that congress has not yet extended the middle class tax cuts. >> reporter: the report also estimates that consumer spending could drop by $200 billion by 2013. 31st, there

don't figure out a way soon. bush tax cut goes away and that alone would drive taxes up for every american. the patches will die as well. so add in the failure of the super committee and sequestered $1.2 trillion. spending cuts of $600 billion in defense. why are we here? you can't blame revenues. americans forked over $2.3 trillion in taxes and fees last year. the taxaholics are stone cold drunk on our spending. spending is out of control. mr. president, waiting for you to stand up and show leadership. bob, haven't heard a thing. crickets. >> eric: i think you heard things. there is movement going on here. >> bob: i'm glad they're breaking away from norquist and say there is a need for revenue. i think whether that comes in form of limiting deductions to $50,000 for people making over $250,000 or -- >> eric: i can say. we will get to all of that. we'll get to the deals that may go on. where is obama's deal or his idea? his proposed, i don't know. the medicare, medicaid, reform to get the tax cuts. >> bob: there will be form of entitlement of increasing the age of retirement age f

in this push for higher taxes. so that is the epicenter. i'm going to the epicenter. i have no fear for you. >> dana: hello. i'm dana perino with andrea tantaros, bob beckel, eric bolling, brian kilmeade. 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: congress 35 days to reach a deal and prevent the economy going over the fiscal cliff. no mystery what the issues areu. the democrats know, republicans know and so does president obama. entitlements are pushing the country toward financial ruin. here is what the president said in 2010. >> the major driver of the long-term liabilities is medicare, medicaid and healthcare spending. nothing comes close. social security we could probably fix the same way tip o'neil and ronald reagan sat down together and we could figure something out. that is manageable. medicare and medicaid, massive problems down the road. that's where, that is what our children have to worry about. >> dana: here we are, two years later and still no plan. on the left in congress refusing to deal with that simple reality. vermont senator bernie sanders caucuses with t

willingness to help the republicans the gate the pledge not to raise taxes by letting it expire and than any tax change to reduce taxes will be a tax cut, we will be glad to sign it. all of the super rich people who are now going to face the state tax on anything over $1 billion will be screening of their shoulders, the thing it. and rear not point to have $200 billion less in spending if after january 1 we sign a new tax bill. the fact that obama is administration is to make it sound like he is averting a catastrophe over the post 2013 -- it is an insult to people who know what is going on. host: if you think that -- do you think the president is not holding from one democratic beliefs? calving i really do not know. i just found out that ed rendell is supposedly a little type of democrat. he is one -- on one of these teams trying to figure out entitlements. this is a simple equation. we have about $800 billion more than necessary in spending. we have $800 billion more in spending that goes into the pockets of those who run unnecessary tests, insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies.

, to look over the so-called fiscal cliff. some existing tax cuts will expire. that could slow the economy or even move it back into recession. up until now, republicans have been unwilling to consider raising taxes, something that democrats say has to change. >> as president eisenhower says, there will have to be compromises and seeking the middle of this rote isn't just acceptable, it's the only way forward. >> most republicans signed a pledge to never raise taxes, but gop law makers say that now they'll have to put that pledge aside for the good of the nation. >>> on wall street, the markets.finished mixed, nasdaq gained nine, apple leading the way up 8%. >>> shareholders. some analysts had suggested that investigators are underestimate's facebook's growth potential from ad revenue. the stock gained 8% today but is still well below its public offering price. six months ago, the company went public with an ipo price of $38 a share. >>> securities and exchange commission. walters who's a democrat serves as a democrat, she takes over for mary shapiro, shapiro leaves next month in the wake

for a tax increase. we could ask president bush how his second term went after he broke his pledge. did he damage the pledge or by breaking his pledge, he lost a second term for the presidency. >> and this morning, even fox and friends were getting all philosophical about till death do us part pledges. >> i think you get into really difficult situations in relationships in general when you make people sign on the dotted line and then you crucify them if they decide to change their line. i'll bring it back to marriage. marriages don't work when one or both parties stand on both sides of the fence and say i'm not budging. then you get divorced. that's what happens. >> crystal, let me explain this being dumped thing to you because i know you've never -- >> it's happened once or twice. >> stop. you lost an election, so you have some sensation of what grover is going through. >> poor guy. i feel for him. it is remarkable because he's had this pledge in place since 1986. george h.p. bush violated the pledge, it essentially led to newt gingrich and the contract for america and we have been living

tax rates for the wealthy in particular. that comes as top republicans in the senate draws a line in the sand saying political ideology cannot rule the negotiations. >> the only balanced approach is one that includes real and lasting reforms. so republicans have stepped out of our comfort zone, we've been clear about what we'll do and what we won't, and yet we remain at an impasse. leading us to why ask why? because a vocal minority on the hard left continues to argue from the leaders of their party from the president on down that democrats in washington should do absolutely nothing about short term, or long term spending problems. this is the thelmand louise crowd, the ones who dream about higher taxes and bigger government it will pay for, regardless of the impact on jobs or the economy, or america's standing in the world. these are the ones who have recklessly ignored the fact that we can't keep running trillion dollar deficits every year and throw a tantrum if someone suggests that maybe the taxpayers shouldn't keep subsidizing ever last program washington ever dreamed up. the

people from higher taxes but mitch mcconnell, senate republican leader, he says there has been no similar compromise from the democrats or the president. he says they are still holding out for higher tax rates on the rich and he says the radical left is prescenting the democrats and president and agreeing to serious reform from medicare. martha, i have to tell you. i got new numbers from medicare, from trustees, actually. medicare has to pay out in the future $42 trillion. that is money which it does not now have. so you can see that this is very serious issue. cuts in spending, cuts to medicare. who will make them? it is very serious because what that kind of money outstanding you need some kind of an agreement and fast. the bottom line right now, martha, it is again an impasse. martha: that's a huge number, stuart. it was about 38 trillion just less than a year ago i believe. >> yes. martha: so that number has really ballooned to 42 trillion as stuart shares with us in terms of those numbers. let's go back to the republican side for just a moment because i think there is a discrepancy i

and tax increases at the start of 2013. from the white house came word that president obama will try to build public pressure on congress to raise taxes on the wealthy and prevent tax hikes for everyone else. white house spokesman jay carney. >> well, the president believes very strongly that the american people matter in this debate. because this debate is about them. the question of whether or not taxes go up on 98% of american tax payers is a very important to ordinary americans. it is not just a matter for discussion between the president and the senate minority leader. or other congressional leaders. >> brown: to that end the president met privately today with small business owners. on friday he'll travel to the philadelphia area to speak further on the issue. not to be outdone, house republicans said they'll meet with small business owners and workers in their districts arguing against the president's plan. in the senate republican my ontario leader mitch mcconnell dismissed the president's new tactics. >> as we head into the fiscal cliff negotiations, my advice to the presiden

. >>> what do you do when they're screaming for entitlement reform on the right, demanding more tax revenue on the left and only a very small stretch of common ground? take it to the people. for the next two days the president is at the white house sitting down with small business leaders. tomorrow he will host middle-class americans who say they can't afford to see their taxes go up. >> if you take away the $2200 from my paycheck it will severely impact my family. >> it begins again with this question of fairness. everybody needs to pull their fair share. >> and on friday he'll return to the stump speaking at a manufacturing plant in pennsylvania. the message is clear, president obama's number one priority is ensure that tax cuts for middle-class families are preserved and tax rates for the wealthy expire. according to warren buffet that idea is already being accepted across the country. >> there's a general feeling among the general public and congress, that the rich like me have been getting away with low tax rates and time to make the tax rates more progressive. >> while the president s

? with the senate in session for 36 days to go before hundreds of billions of dollars in tax cuts hikes and cuts take affect, white house press secretary repeated everything including entitlement programs would be part of the talkings. talks. meanwhile, many are turning their back on the pledge to grover norquist. >> times changed significantly and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> i agree, a pledge signed 20 years ago is for that congress. >> i'm willing to generate revenue. it's fair to ask my party to put revenue on the table we're build historic averages. >> it does appear that speaker boehner is open to talk about revenue entitlement reform. >> eliot: jay carney said the white house welcomed those comments and grover norquist tried to make light of them. >> some of them have engaged in impure thoughts. they have not actually voted for a tax increase. >> eliot: norquist drawing the red line of any revenue even if new funds came from closing loopholes and limiting deductions. >> if you do that, you've just killed tax reform for a generation. why? how do y

owners today. tomorrow he meets with middle class americans who would be affected by tax hikes and more business leaders. friday he's going to travel to hatfield pennsylvania where he will give campaign style remarks to get support for congress to negotiate the right kind of deal. we are back with more steph after this. ♪ [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ >> yahoo, it is the "stephanie miller show," welcome to it. 1-800-steph-1-2 toll free from everywhere. steven weber. he will be there nobody panic he will be right there. charlie pierce said some good stuff about the fiscal cliff and other things. this is going to be a fascinating discussion. the president playing three dimensional chess. told you so. >> never mind. >> never mind. >> corn? when did we book corn? [ laughter ] >> oh, you kids. i swear. all right, you know what? i think there's a little estrogen in the clubhouse. ♪ ♪ >> hi, jackie schechner. >> good morning. my athlete, my warrior my legend. >> stop that night now. >> you didn't get up this early to compromis

to compromise with republicans on taxes and spending. an identical 72% want republicans to do the same, compromise with the other side. as for what compromise should entail, 67% favor a mix of spending cuts and tax increases. that's what they say real progress would look like. keeping them honest, real progress is one thing. washington progress is another. so far at least we see much more of the second than the first, and we're getting late new word that any progress might be stalled. more on that shortly. first, a good example of washington progress. republican lawmakers standing up in a limited way to a beltway power broker named grovier norquist over the 1980s era pledge he pressures them to sign promising not to raise any taxes ever. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i made tennesseans aware. i was just elected. the only thing i'm honoring is the oath i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> that's senator bob corker and one of the a handful up republican lawmakers repudiating the pledge. he'll join us shortly. i'll ask him to be more specific about whether that's h

on the negotiating table. the white house warned that the uncertainty of potential tax hikes for middle-class taxpayers could hurt consumer confidence during the holiday shopping session. that could have a big effect on the economy. the washington post writes that the white house is ratcheting up pressure to avoid the fiscal cliff. on c-span tonight, we will bring you some of the house and senate debate from august of 2011, when congress passed the budget control act that triggered cuts to take effect on january 1. we will also hear from president obama, who signed the deficit reduction measure into law, part of the deal to raise the debt ceiling. first, senate majority leader harry reid and republican majority leader mitch mcconnell will talk on the senate floor about the january fiscal deadline. >> since our country voted to return president obama to the white house, i have spoken often about compromise. i remain optimistic that, when it comes to our economy, when it comes to protecting middle-class families from a whopping tax hike, republicans and democrats will be able to find comm

this lame duck congress needs to address before the end of the year and even though the tax increases are going to take effect in 36 days, there's still only talk of a compromise, so can congress actually walk the walk or are we going to go off this cliff? up next, mike lee of utah. really appreciate you taking the time. you wrote an op-ed in the washington times and said quote, delaying significant fiscal restraint will send the wrong signal and may serve as taping point for our economy. so you're fear is that interest rates could surge. to be father, we've had this disastrous situation for years and interest rates have kept falling in spite of all worries that there would be a disaster. >> that's right. that's one of the things that distinguishes the fiscal cliff, which we're coming up against right now. from what i described yesterday says the fiscal avalanche. we can see when the fiscal cliff is about to hit. the avalanche occurs when people stop buying u.s. treasury instruments and we have to start raising the interest rate. eventually, we get to the point where we can't afford a

is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the million dollar question is all concerns around senators lindsey graham, saxby chambliss, congressman peter king among other republicans who said they'd be willing to break away from grover norquist's anti-tax pledge. will you say if you're willing to break that pledge in order to save the country from the fiscal cliff. >> hello, thomas. and first of all, i signed that pledge two years ago, and the reason i signed it is because i think increasing tax rates, increasing the amount of money that the federal government takes away from job creators is going to harm economic growth a

putting limits on their no tax pledge and telling grover norquist to get lost. but remember, there's only one of those people in the house of representatives. >>> keeping hope and change alive. president obama's aides are hoping to keep the campaign going and use their new leverage at the polls to win the fight for higher taxes against the wealthy. >>> this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> get ready for some more partisan agendas in the state governments across the country. that's because come january at least 37 states will be under single party control. 37 of them. with one party holding both houses of state legislatures and the governorship. and that's the largest number of states under single party control in 60 years. 24 of those 37 states will be controlled by republicans and 13 under democratic control. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to politics and "hardball." abortion politics, particularly anti-abortion politics, has been a guiding principle of republican politics for decades. yesterday senator john mccain stepped back from the edge and seemed to say it was time

the coming grief. >> it's not easy. but drying off your hand and saying maybe i'll raise taxes instead of governing is not the way to go. >> cenk: but, in fact, it's fake drama. i'll show how is really in charge of the republican party and exactly what they're going to do. then we've got walmart strikers. instead, it's record-breaking. and who is striking with them? here it comes. >> joined which alan grayson who thursday night escorted walmart worker lisa lopez from walmart because she felt that she should not be working on thanksgiving. >> cenk: don't miss it. and then it's interesting whistleblower. blowing the whistle on a-for-profit scam. >> they were raising jobs with which they did not need a degree for. >> cenk: i'll give the elbow of the day away. it's on fox news, it's by one of their guest and it's awesome. don't miss it. it is, in fact, go time. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: so it appears we have an internal fight within the republican party. we've got drama. oh, my god they might stop live living to grover norquist's pledge. he's the guy who says, no tax increases--ever! her

sales tax. now a move to close the loopholes that are costing states millions. plus at least when people shop online this doesn't happen. [oh] >> shepard: tonight, the brawl at the mall. a jury cleared casey anthony of murdering her little girl. >> we, the jury, find the defendant not guilty. >> shepard: now some potentially explosive evidence about a computer search somebody did on the day little caylee disappeared. and this was no ordinary parade can a gety. >> snn colon and then a number. >> shepard: shredded police documents apparently reigning down on the thanksgiving day crowd. >> i didn't know what to make of all of this information. >> tonight, investigation and police respond. but first from fox this monday night, some republicans are now saying they are willing to break their no tax hikes pledge to keep us all from going right over the fiscal cliff at the end of the year. it's pretty new and that's when pretty much everybody's taxes will go up if congress and the president can't cut a deal. g.o.p. leaders insist they still do not want to raise tax rates. instead, they say they

popular mortgage deduction. and while republicans have been more open to revenue, that does not mean tax rate increases. many democrats insist that tax rates for the wealthiest americans absolutely have to go up. but they don't necessarily agree on how much they should rise. let me bring in usa today's washington bureau chief, susan page, and ryan grim. good morning to both of you. >> hey, good morning. >> good morning. >> we've laid out some of the basics there and warren buffett was out this morning talking about taxing the wealthy. he says there should be a minimum tax on millionaires. take a listen. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes, and then they've watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> you know, he was the one that in a way started all this, susan, because he talked about he shouldn't pay a lower tax rate than his secretary. now he's saying that taxes should rise, maybe for people making over $500,000

called "a minimum tax for the wealthy." and you start off bying a most investors you know, if it's a good deal they're not going to be upset about the fact that they're going to have to pay some tax. >> every investor i know. i've never -- i'm 82 years old and i'm looking like diogenes at that investor who says "i think i'll look at this chance to pass on this money." >> rose: even if it's a certain deal -- >> i'm going to call you tonight at midnight and say "this is the best idea i've ever had." and will you say "how much is the tax i have to pay?" >> rose: i don't think so. you say "in the meantime maybe we'll run into someone with a terrific investment idea who won't go forward with it with the tax he would owe when he succeeds. send it my way. let me unburden him." >> that offer goes to all viewers. >> rose: you have a serious purpose. what is the minimum tax that you think ought to be done today by congress and not wait for all the time it might take and all the deals it might take to reform the tax code. >> i think on incomes over one million that the excess over one million should

and picks up just where it left off. stalemated over tax rates and entitlement spending. >> unfortunately, there's one obstacle standing between congress and compromise, grover norquist. for years, norquist has bullied lawmakers willing to put their oath of office or promise to serve constituents ahead of their pledge to this anti-tax zell lot. >> the washington democrats, every dollar that's ever been secured for anything is sacred. every dollar secured for anything is sacred. and they'll defend it to the death regardless of what it means for jobs, or the economy. >>> coming up here, the it's top economic adviser alan krueger. clashes in cairo today, more protests in tahrir square against egypt's president morsi. we'll have a live report. move over george clooney the on yan's kim junge un the sexiest man alive and beijing doesn't get the joke. good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. no joke today on capitol hill. ambassador susan rice's attempt to clear the air with republicans over benghazi did not work as the white house had hoped. senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they

will ruin christmas. >> what they're talking about is raising revenues and not tax rates. >> republicans have stepped out of our comfort zone. >> there are very few republicans who have any clear sense of what they want. >> republicans should look forward to a 2014 wipeout. >> bottom line, would raising taxes on the wealthiest americans have a chilling effect on hiring in this country? >> no. >> the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what mitt romney and paul ryan were campaigning on. ♪ america, america >> are we going to continue to making our case? >> i will say this, i can never, ever find my car in a garage. ♪ i'm going off the rails on a crazy train ♪ ♪ i'm going off the rails on a crazy train ♪ >> with frantic and frenetic behind-the-scenes negotiations as both sides work against the clock trying to reach an agreement on the fiscal cliff that is fast approaching. the president is trying to ramp up public pressure on congress to accept his ideas for debt reduction in. in the coming days he meets with small business owners, middle class ta

a year-end fiscal cliff. yesterday the white house took a hard line insisting tax rates have to rise on the rich and warning that anymore delay on the deal could ruin consumer confidence and hurt holiday retail sales. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington with the details. tracie, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. today we'll see a continued push by the white house. in fact, for the rest of this week, new details released this morning, still pushing for those taxes on the rich. meantime, here on capitol hill we're seeing some small signs of compromise. today president obama meets with small business leaders continuing his push for higher taxes for the wealthy. a new xhous economic report warns if tax breaks go away, the average middle class family will owe uncle sam another $2200 next year. >> it seems to be the thing we can agree on, that middle class families should see an extension of these tax cuts. >> reporter: some prominent republicans dead set against raising taxes on anyone now hint they may consider other options. >> we've been open to revenue by closing

, opportunity fund. excuse me. but just know that our office, we are in city hall in the tax and treasurer's office, and our office is www.sfgov.org/osb. we have some information on that. if you did not get one of our small business booklets and you want one, please take my card, e-mail me, and we will mail you one as well. immigrate. thank you, regina. for those of you looking to contact these organizations, you can find their contact information in the program you should have picked up when you sign in. for those of you who are prospective entrepreneurs, if we could limit the acronyms and talk more about what those acronyms mean. >> sounds good. thanks, mark, virginia, and leader pelosi for putting on this event, and for all that she has done -- thanks mark, regina , and later pelosi. we have been able to access resources through the sba and the cdfi fund which helps get money to small businesses in this time of need. opportunity fund is not a bank or a government agency. we are an independent nonprofit organization with a mission to provide capital to working people to help them earn, s

, more republicans seeming to break their no tax pledge but still bickering with democrats over the so-called fiscal cliff. and just under 35 days now america falls off that cliff. you've heard the menacing sound right there. this triggers drastic spending cuts and tax hikes. now there are some signs of compromise on capitol hill. several top republicans saying they're willing to at least consider raising tax revenues to get a spending plan passed within the next five weeks. however when the lame duck senate returned to work yesterday, it sure sounded like the same old stalemate. >> the senate has spoken and president obama has spoken. he's promised he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2% of americans. i only hope house republicans have been listening. >> we've been responsible, even as we've remained firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that won't materialize later. >> hardly a political plug there. cnn political director mark preston is live from washington this morning. mark, so far there are no form

in the last congress when later closing was speaker of the house. she had had 16 tax cuts signed into law to help small businesses grow and thrive. as we know, during the last 15 years, small businesses account for about 2/3 of the job growth in our country, but when the bush recession hits in 2009, 2010, small businesses were hit particularly hard. small businesses are the center of her agenda. congress under her leadership gave 27 million small businesses tax cuts. two main pieces of legislation -- the small businesses jobs act in the information you have, will create a total of 500,000 jobs and create eight tax cuts. they are all described in the packet you have. also, unleashing up to $300 billion in credit for small businesses to access. there are another eight tax cuts that were passed through a number of different laws. some of our panelists will address those. even though now we are in an environment where there is a republican majority in the house and a slimmer majority in the senate, please note that the leader and democrats are going fight hard to keep their agenda and restart

is that we are having a continuing discussion about the budget of our country and about the taxes of our country, and indeed, about the unfair and often upside down nature of our tax code that allows people making hundreds of millions of dollars a year to pay a lower tax rate than a family that earns $100 a year -- $100,000 a year. and in the context of that discussion there is one thing i think we can do right now that would be important and helpful to the vast majority of americans, indeed to 98% of american families and 97% of american small businesses and that is to assure them that their taxes are not going to go up on january 1. assuming we can't get to a budget agreement before january 1, then automatically all of the bush tax cuts will end, and the senate has actually passed a law that will allow those tax cuts to be curtailed. to be protected. for families that earn $250,000 a year and less. that bill has passed the senate and it's now over at the house awaiting action by the house. the republican-controlled house is in a position any time the speaker chooses to call up that bil

. >> to be fair, he makes this point, first of all nobody has voted for tax increase yet. and they haven't in a very long time. so he accused them of having impure thoughts on tv. those are his words not mine. but nobody has actually cast a vote. >> bill: a republican having impure thoughts? >> is that against the law? >> tony perkins is going to jump on this, too. so there's that. there is also -- these folks -- chambliss saxby chambliss were georgia, mccain, they flirted with this idea of increasing revenue in the past. this isn't too new for them. until we see actually policy proposals that differ from romney's plan of disclosing loopholes and finding revenue that way, we shouldn't be jumping to conclusions this is a big shift in republican thinking. >> bill: they haven't voted for anything. they haven't broken the pledge. we may be open to new revenue but never no, no, no way. will we raise tax rates on the wealthiest of americans. basically, it is the same old romney b.s. that we're continuing. >> you gotta watc

of the physical cliff. maybe they don't know what it means. maybe they don't know about the tax increases that await us. do they know about the layoffs and the ta awtake away of the stimulus. are they foolish and brave? smug, we won't go back into a recession? perhap s obtuse. first off, we shouldn't be putting that much faith in the consumer value customers to begin with. it was right at the beginning of the breakdown of society as we know it. sure, they were confident. but they were wrong. second, many people polled were paying income taxes. we know that 47% of the people in the country were paying the rates. but a lot of people in the country, cohorts are small and it is a small part of the survey. given how difficult the tax code is to comprehend. i have been trying to figure out what it could be. that makes me cautious. third, it is possible we are overstating the whole fiscal cliff issue. there are people that kcalculat how much they would owe. they are still spending aggressively. maybe they don't care. perhaps the fiscal cliff is not impacting people because so much of the discuss

. a number of republicans are finally putting limits on their no tax pledge and telling grover norquist to get lost. but remember, there's only one of those people in the house of representatives. >>> keeping hope and change alive. president obama's aides are hoping to keep the campaign going and use their new leverage at the polls to win the fight for higher taxes against the wealthy. >>> this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> get ready for some more partisan agendas in the state governments across the country. that's because come january at least 37 states will be under single party control. 37 of them. with one party holding both houses of state legislatures and the governorship. and that's the largest number of states under single party control in 60 years. 24 of those 37 states will be controlled by republicans

of raising taxes in the face of the fiscal cliff. >>> courageous until the end. a former mayor in mexico who fearlessly stood up to the drug cartels found murdered. >>> and face-to-face behind closed doors today, u.n. ambassador susan rice takes on one of her sharpest critics, senator john mccain, over her actions after the benghazi attack. good morning and welcome to "early start," i'm deborah feyerick in for john berman. >> really nice to have you. >> i'm so glad to be here. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. first, congress back to work, and back to bickering. in just under 35 days, america hits the fiscal cliff. that triggers severe spending cuts and tax hikes. several top republicans are now defying party politics and signaling a willingness to consider increasing tax revenues to get a budget deal done. but when the lame duck senate got back in session yesterday it sure sounded like the same old broken record. >> the senate has spoken. president obama has spoken. he's promising he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2%

them what to do. therefore, they don't have a lot of social service. no state income tax in texas. however, get in the lone star state about $40 billion. there is a balanced budget amendment. by contrast california owes an astounding $167 billion. and it's running an annual deficit of about 9 billion. money they that can never never be paid back. what is california getting for all of that? high school graduation rate 37 out of 50 states. per capita income, $44,500. but, there is a 10.1% unemployment rate. crime number one. there are more prisoners in california than any other state. take a look at texas. high school ranks 44th. slightly above california. per capita income about 40,000 bucks per year. but there is relatively low unemployment 6.6%. convicts in state prisoners ranked number two behind california. so you can see there is not a big difference in the economic and social stats but there is a big difference in mind set. california has many more social welfare programs. golden state also has many more business regulations. texas, you could pretty much set up any bigness yo

. it's important for them to pay back taxes and important to learn english and it's important for them to potentially pay a fine. but to give them the avenue whereby they can resolve their legal status here in this country is very important. >> now, one thing that stuck out to me there is rather than saying path to citizenship he said path to legal status, which is two different things. with citizen ship you can vote and with legal status you can't. for a lot of republicans a sticking point has been that distinction. it was their problem with the dream act, because when you lose latino voters by that large margin, you don't want more latino voters. ann coulter said something at a conference a while back that stuck with me. she said after obama care our biggest issue is immigration because if we allow amnesty the whole country will go the way of california and we will never win a national election again. i think that distinction could be an important one in this battle and sticking point. the other thing is republicans have used the immigration issue in primaries and with their base for

different. than most of those in the past. sales tax, since september 15th of the year, many retailers have been charging sales tax on internet purchases sold to those who live in california that. is when our stubp' law went into affect requiring them to start charging sales tax. >> if a retailer doesn't pay tax, then they have advantage over guys trying to make a living in the state of california. >> not all merchants are collecting the tax on the smaller companies saying federal law exerp yefrts them. citizens required to pay at the time of purchase or to keep track of how much money spent online, then pay a use tax on state income tax form. it's highly unlikely to do that if you buy a big screen tv they're going to be looking out for you. >> thank you. >> sure. >> we're expecting some major changes in weather. >> yes. >> sandhya patel is here to tell whaus is in store. >> we're looking at strong winds, heavy rain. this is a live look out towards the bay we do have high clouds moving through. we have fog west. it will be dense again. there is a beautiful view of the moon over lake tahoe.

and tax hikes go into effect at the end of the year. the president wants tax breaks for 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses, while raising taxes on the wealthy. most republicans remain against tax hikes and want to cut spending on social programs such as medicare and social security. however, the latest tone out of washington is encouraging. "as thomas jefferson said, and this is a quote, 'we should not put off tomorrow what we can do today.'" "the only balanced approach is one that includes real and lasting reforms, so republicans have stepped out of our comfort zone." in the latest manueverings, the obama administration points out the typical american household will pay $2,200 in additional taxes next year, which could hurt consumer spending by $200 billion in 2013 and threaten christmas shopping this season. house speaker john boehner and a few other key republicans appear willing to consider tax hikes. billionaire warren buffett chimes in that tax hikes won't stop the wealthy from investing. in our cover story, the woman who led the securities and exchange commission after t

to get the majority of a majority on tax issues. he's not going to get a majority of majority on debt raising. >> much harder on the debt ceiling than taxes. >> that's what i'm saying. i refuse to vote to raise a debt ceiling when they were trying to raise it to $5 trillion. it's something you don't do unless you get a lot of cuts on the other side. >> and it's not a game. because if you don't raise it, we saw what happened last time, you can get your debt downgraded and has real economic consequenc consequences. and that's why when people think about the fiscal cliff, we all assume that sane minds will prevail and they'll come up with some deal. there's no guarantee that sane minds will prevail. and recent history would suggest that sanity almost never prevails in washington. so you can assume it's going to be more difficult than we think. you can assume that the bush tax cuts might all go away for a short period of time. and you cannot assume they just raise the debt limit. you cannot make that assumption. >> are the president's men and women -- are they under -- are they making the

companies? when you could have protected my medicare, why did you protect corporate tax loopholes. i do not know what the -- loopholes? i do not know, but i am predicting it will be hot. they are going to spend their august defending. thank you. >> thank you. the chairman is one of the few democrats we can call mr. chairman. we are honored you are both here. thank you for your great work. i am proud of the work the caucus has been doing over time. on behalf of job creation, you heard what was said here. there is a tremendous need for rebuilding the infrastructure of america. it is in the trillions of dollars, just addressing the building the of the structure -- the infrastructure. we will need public-private partnerships on how this is funded in a way that create s jobs. i want to mention mark, who has the bill on china's currency, over 170 signatures already, to discharge petition on that bill. it has already passed the house in a bipartisan way. we want it to come up again. this is not only about creating jobs. it is about developing small businessmen and -- in an entrepreneurial way,

searched an today for cyber monday: . >> california began taxes on- line sales this year, but at 5:30, why the state may be missing out on millions of dollars because of how that law was written. >>> a new crackdown on internet counterfeiters. 132 international websites were shut down today. >> jaymee: c.e. said they were -- ice said that count fitters send shabby merchandise, or often fail to fill the order at all. >> organized criminals looking to take advantage of unsuspecting consumers to make a quick buck. >> congress returned today from its thanksgiving break with the country still headed toward that fiscal cliff. republicans are pressing the white house for a list of long- term spending cuts. democrats still want to raise income taxes on the rich. so far there is little outward signs the two sides are are closer to heading off the automatic tax increases and spending cuts economists have said could push the economy into another recession. the dow dropped 42 points today. the nasdaq was up by 9. the s&p closed by by 2. >>> a carbon monoxide scare that sent four people to the hospita

it with me, 35 days to avoid the dreaded fiscal cliff, the huge package of tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect january 1 if congress and the president do not cut a deal. we're told they have been talking behind the scenes and president obama has already hosted congressional leaders for a post election sit-down. but the president is also launching a new pr effort, a campaign, some are calling it here, starting with the white house meeting today, of small business owners. then tomorrow, the president hosts more business owners and a group of middle class americans who would be hurt if the tax hikes take effect the first of the year. then friday, a campaign style stop in pennsylvania, a toy factory of all places, highlighting the importance of middle class consumers in this holiday season. but back in washington, senate leaders, they are speaking out. you have democrat harry reid saying the president won the election. and it is time for republicans to fall in line. meantime, republican mitch mcconnell not impressed with the president's plans to go back on the road. take a listen. >

with events this week to 0 build public support. some call it posturing for his preferred combination of tax ineeses and spending cuts. a contrast from how the white house conducted itself during the 2011 debt ceiling standoff. ultimately this fight comes down to another number, 218. the number of house votes needed for a deal. and it's not clear that his efforts will persuade 100 to 120 house republicans who are needed at a minimum for boehner to get a deal done to get to the 218 overall. remember these republicans believe just as fervently as the white house does that they have their version of public opinion on their side. why can do we think this? when it comes to their own voter, both sides are right. the president won re-election fairly handily, but so did republican incumbents in the house. these are some stunning statistics that gerrymandering has created. 93% of the 205 house republicans who ran for re-election won. 88% of them won with 55% of the vote or more. the president received between 51% and 52% of the vote. once the votes are finally all counted. and even though everyone in

? >> we want to engage in comprehensive tax reform. we also need to engage in entitlement reform. you know? medicare, medicaid carefully, these are chief drivers of our deficit. we made a lot of progress with obama care and there's other spending we have to cut. >> hold on a second. i think we all know what the chief drivers of our deficit are and have been. our projected deficit over the next seven years is driven mostly by the wars in iraq and afghanistan and the bush tax cuts. entitlement programs don't even compete with these costs. plouffe went on to pin the problem largely on republicans who are not flexible on higher tax rates, but he also said this. >> and so where i think the big bottleneck right now is republicans in congress on revenue and how much and where does it come from. democrats are also going to have to step up here and do some tough things. and you know, the notion that somehow that these deficits and our debt are not a threat to our national security and our economic future is something i could not disagree with more strongly, as does the president. there are some, ma

, that is the tax increase that is coming five weeks from tonight. we asked our research department to add it all up for us. for a household earning $20,000 to $40,000 it would mean a tax increase of $1,200. an income of $40,000 to $64,000 would see an increase of $2,000 and an income of $64,000 to $109,000, would see an increase of $3,500. again, that will happen at the first of the year unless the president and congress agree on another way to fix the federal budget. what are the prospects of that? congressional correspondent nancy cordes is on capitol hill for us tonight. nancy? >> reporter: scott, both parties returned to capitol hill from thanksgiving loudly proclaiming their willingness to compromise but refusing to back it up with much specifics. top senate aides tell me that's because these negotiations are really taking place between just two people: house speaker john boehner and the president. boehner and the president spoke by phone on saturday, agreeing not to share details. but senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said today the g.o.p. wants the president to make the first move and

up 800 billion in new revenue and overhaul the tax system and changes to medicare and that's why the republicans are asking the democrats to come in and explain your deal. this plan was hatched in 2010 and everyone walked away from it and now they call bowles back up? it is late. this is what the american people are upset about. nothing gets done. >> steve: we are a month from the cliff. >> gretchen: we could have avoided the cliff if they used the plan as a starting point. americans are upset nothing gets done. >> brian: norquist is the bad guy. you should walk away from grover norquest. he said you have enough money on capitol hill and stop asking us . he's been a watch dog on our money so whether you are democrat or republican you should salute him. he warned you in the past that people who walked away from the no new taxes paid a price. >> remember the gang of 6. three of the people that you mentioned spent eight months in the room with democrats, pretending to negotiate tax increases for entitlement reform . after a while coburn had to admit they were offered nothing but tax

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